Discussion with Tan and John PLEASE READ

Hey Mike, when you left we discussed how we could improve upon alot of the features that we have, and cleared up some major issues.

First things first:
I think we all need to stand back and look what we have at the moment. We all have done alot of work (especially you mike) but we need to critique it all to improve upon what we have done.

1. We needed to increase the wheel base

2. Get rid of those over hangs so from the wheels to the end there should be at least a 45* so that it can get over most terrain.

3.The roll cage we all discussed in detail, and came to the conclusion that we should put in a couple more pillars. This is because if you travel for a long time you want to beable to rest your head against somthing, or hold onto. How high do we want this?? (refer to drawing)
(Have you ever traveled with your Girlfreind/ Partner on a long journey?? You will find them getting tired, and want to lean thier head on somthing.. which leads onto my next point!)

4. The seats! Originaly wanted them to face inwards and outwards, and we still do!! Just a matter of how we do this! In the drawings i'm about to post up you can see what i mean.

But by having a fixed isle and just swinging your legs over to the other side and leaning forward on the backrest, it requires no moving parts, and means we can hold more people as well!

The greatest thing about isle seats is that IF there is more than two people (child/freind/fat man) they can all sit on the same row, have thier personal space and is less intrusive!

(This also enables us to have more room and freedom for people to sit where ever they want. eg: tourguide can sit with them.)

5. We also talked about leg room. (refer to my drawings) If you are on a long trip how can you acomodate for people wanting to stretch out thier legs??

(think about trains, they are cramped, but they are targeting to cram as many people in as possible)

we can use a similar concept, but give a little more room, and the opposite persons legs can go between the opposite persons.

6. When drawing wheels, the rims can give the vechile some definition, as can the tyres it sits on. (think about the personality of a car, 22" bling bling chromies vs 17" m5 wheels... all show no go vs pure performance..of course they both look good..just portray different things.)

7. I highly recomend you all go and study a toyota hiace! and report back your findings!! it will give you a lot better sense of scale, how much room there really is etc, and look at the wheel arches from inside and outside! its quite interesting. The space between the floor and the step down, and also just have a look at how the driver sits. (ontop of the engine)

This is the end of my rant for now... I hope this is all useful information..this is what we discussed after class.